How to Build the Subaru FA Engine for BIG Power!

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  • Опубликовано: 13 апр 2025
  • In this week's video we are finally getting the chance to build an FA engine that was worth making a video about! See what we have to do to prepare this engine to support around 500 horsepower.
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  • @benrambow144
    @benrambow144 Год назад +72

    I love that in the same video he talks about contrasting crystalline grain structure so intelligently and then some how says things like “makes ej’s go bye-bye” and “dead nuts balance” without losing any credibility. Fantastic video!

    • @Mike_Akins
      @Mike_Akins Год назад +6

      “If you run above 330 and for sure above 350ft lbs… you tend to bend the rod (😊) it’s usually a catastrophic failure… bending the rod isn’t cool” I laughed my ass off right there!
      @11:26 😂

  • @davidf7rt
    @davidf7rt Год назад +64

    Thanks to Mike now i want to WPC treat even the spoons and forks of my home, the floor, the whole house, my wife, my dog, my friends... Everything now needs to be WPC treated and cryogenically treated 😂😂
    ❤❤❤❤

    • @ricepony33
      @ricepony33 Год назад +6

      Do not cryo treat your dog, very stiff.

  • @justingonzalez6448
    @justingonzalez6448 Год назад +17

    I have zero intention to build out my VB WRX with the FA24 to this extent, but really enjoyed the in depth explanation of the engine’s pros and cons. I could listen to you explain how things work for hours. Really appreciate the time, energy and genuine enthusiasm for what you do.

  • @agoods18
    @agoods18 Год назад +56

    When you start talking metallurgy it's magical. Great stuff.

    • @YouTube_Scientist
      @YouTube_Scientist Год назад

      And where did you go to school for metallurgical engineering? 😅

    • @agoods18
      @agoods18 Год назад

      @RUclips_Scientist ferris state university you fuck head.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +10

      @@RUclips_Scientist Cal State Long Beach ME 35 years as an engineer for OEMs's also Motorsports Engineer and consultant for several factory race and privateer teams as well as several performance parts manufactures.

    • @YouTube_Scientist
      @YouTube_Scientist Год назад +1

      @@motoiq well then you're well aware of cryogenic treatments and martensitic start and finish temps but - where do you get the info on what alloys are used in these engines to even .. explain to me why you would cryo a tempered steel (nitrided?) crankshaft without a salt or lead bath austemper? Is that 5% of martensite going to matter on these alloys or is that literally just marketing?
      I don't know if I have to say this or not but I obviously respect the hell out of ya man we obviously both have similar interests and whatnot - I'm not.. necessarily well okay I know it sounds like it over text but I really am not like arguing or trying to. Honestly I enjoy your videos but I couldn't get past the "we cryo our cranks" just because to me personally? With my knowledge which is not absolute (I'm sure we both forget stuff although everything I heard you say was correct but I did not finish the video because of the cryo deal).
      Moto, I owe you an apology for not finishing the video because, well obviously being a doctor on the internet puts me in a unique position henceforth my name. I just fail to understand the purpose behind cryo treatment post heat treatment, unless it's mainly a marketing deal. We don't know each other, but I absolutely cannot stand "marketing" or "advertising" or "corporate America" to an extent that you would not believe, so seeing someone that I respect start saying oh ya well soak your metal in ln2 for 500$ when I.. work in said corporate America and as a hobby I make high carbide PM kitchen knives for professional chefs, so obviously I know what alloys benefit from cryogenic treatments and which do not. But I have no idea how you are identifying these alloys being used because I personally have xrf/XRD and it's not enough for that purpose. GC-MS-MS? That would not be cheap but I can't rule it out.
      Also I'm incredibly sorry for freaking saying the school thing. That was a bit out of line. I hate people who go around with where they went to school. But since I did and I kinda know what I know, I am sorry but I did have to ask questions about it. I suppose I still do have questions about it.
      I don't deal in the engine steels or anything like that nor do I know where to find out what is what. I'm in the austenitic/duplex alloy department for work, henceforth my fun hobby where I get to play with ZTA ceramics and metals.
      Not that we'd want to cause of asperities grain growth yada yada but - is there a way to find out what alloy is being used so it can be re-heat treated or suchlike? I could say that would make a difference a little bit more than say just chilling to 196c. I work for US steel automotive research as a metallurgist fyi. I thought I posted that.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +4

      @@RUclips_Scientist Alloys for the pistons, cranks, and rods are known from the manufacturers. 4340 is pretty common for rods and cranks, the crank is not SAE 4340 but the JIS more or less equivalent, I forget the number. The crank is nitrated. The pistons are 2618 which is pretty common for American forged pistons. 4032 used to be popular but with improvements in piston design has fallen out of favor lately. As for the carpenter alloy, it was in the valve manufacturer info, I forgot which carpenter alloy numbers were used but since I was on a one-take roll when shooting the video I just kept going to make post-production easier plus I didn't think our audience would care that much. Cryo is more wear-resistant on an engine's ferrous rubbing surfaces. I have seen this in engines many times. It is also well documented in tool steels. Personally, I don't think it has much value in nonferrous metals except maybe stress relief. Look up some of the white papers on google about cryo. There are many interesting ones. I started using it many years ago and it seems to have worthwhile results in our high-power engines. In one series we do engines for, our engines go about 2x longer in between refreshes compared to our competitors. In our race engines, the rings have very little wear even after a season of use. The gaps stay close to the same and the second compression ring isn't even fully seated across the face! Cryoing eliminated valve spring failure for us, even with aggressive roller cams. One of my rifles went from one MOA accuracy to an astounding 0.25 MOA! It was also less sensitive to ammo quality, shooting no worse than 1.5 MOA even with cheap ammo on a bad day. Good cryotreating isn't so much dipping in LN2 but slowly reducing the temp to LN2 temp, then slowly increasing the temp to close to the tempering point over 72 plus hours so it probably isn't just the cold but also the tempering doing something. It does help though and in some alloys the difference is shocking. I was skeptical at first and cautious in its application but now I use it a lot more. I have a technical question, How do you form and sharpen ZTA into a knife?

  • @fortunesk89
    @fortunesk89 Год назад +109

    Japanese micro peening, lubricity, short stroke good thing I got my air pods in here at work 😂

  • @devonteervin3227
    @devonteervin3227 9 дней назад +1

    This man single handed help me build the weak point of my motor just of knowledge alone

  • @davewallace9048
    @davewallace9048 Год назад +8

    The level of knowledge, and the way to articulate what he does is totally amazing!!

  • @y.b.-
    @y.b.- Год назад +6

    It's the small, almost magical , trial and error results that Mike shares in these videos that is priceless for anyone looking to do things the right way while minimizing the F***up potential that are priceless.
    Yes, the basics are the same regardless of the engine or the goals, but those things that wait you when trying to figure out what works and what not are the gold nuggets
    Thanks Mike and MotoIQ team for sharing!

  • @SpectreFleet
    @SpectreFleet Год назад +9

    What an absolute gem of a human, and video.
    I just got a new-to-me 2018 WRX-Sport Tech a few months back, and this is the detail I was hoping I'd be able to find when I went looking for it.
    Awesome.

    • @SGQ12
      @SGQ12 11 месяцев назад

      Put aig AOS, up grade radiator and oil pick, change oil 5k and clean air filter every 3k

  • @Miapeaceheje
    @Miapeaceheje Год назад +19

    I’ve landed in the future and can report back that Markiplier finishes his engineering degree and develops a love of Subarus!

  • @DoubleOSevan
    @DoubleOSevan Год назад +17

    I feel like I owe Mike my tuition money.

  • @Fubbzie
    @Fubbzie 8 месяцев назад +4

    As an owner of a new gr86 and new to the flat motor world, your videos are great and I can’t wait to be a customer.

  • @Alex-q7m3k
    @Alex-q7m3k Год назад +15

    For informative purposes..
    I paid 11k for my Rebuilt title 2016 WRX with 65k miles. I threw a bearing at 85k miles drove it until 100k ticking like a mf since I had a motor ready(I was getting -2FKL and -11FBK for a while cruising at under 15% throttle before it started to tick bad. But under WOT or stronger acceleration it would disappear and my AP would read zero sometimes a -2 or -4 on occasion which supposedly was acceptable) it was FBO minus manifold on a TMIC. I spent maybe 5-6kish for the upgrades? Was flex with lpfp/hpfp upgraded.
    8K for a new P2P Closed deck Longblock 0 miles (costs 14k got lucky, I was going to buy a shortblock for 6k that same week) has everything done to it minus cams, 625+ rod bolt 1/2" headstuds etc
    3k for STI Swap
    2k for TR GTX29 turbo
    7k for Misc parts & labor
    1k for Ecutek software/tune
    Limited to high mid 400 whp because of no secondary injection :c once I get that which is another 3kish I can do 510-520whp on my GTX29. I'll run what I have until end of year and get my secondary fueling and a BL58XR (Claims 770hp of airflow) biggest you can go stock location before you spend 6k+ on an ETS turbo kit.. or if I get lucky and find another ETS kit for 3k ill snag that. For those wondering, I am indeed broke as fuck and I finish concrete for a living.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +9

      I mean even our shop car in one of our last videos was built over 10 years. It's expensive!

    • @cheddardavis5818
      @cheddardavis5818 Год назад +1

      I feel for ya , I spun a bearing on my 2015 wrx and planned to build it. This was in 2020 , it’s now sitting in my garage with iag stage 2 short block , stock port heads with gsc components. I bought an fp blue for it and am refusing to touch it til I have all the supporting parts for the turbo 🙃

    • @charlvictor3714
      @charlvictor3714 8 месяцев назад

      I have Kelford 280 cams for sale if you are interested

    • @Keith-e5f
      @Keith-e5f 3 месяца назад

      I love my 2023 base model. I don't plan on doing any mods to it because it seems great for me personally the way it is. But if I wanted a faster car, I think I would just buy one that's already there without doing a bunch of mods. Just my two cents.

  • @khalidalhadidi6402
    @khalidalhadidi6402 Год назад +4

    I can't resist not to watch, It's pleasure and joy to listen and hope to build my FA-24 one day🙏🏼

  • @ShermSMASH
    @ShermSMASH 8 месяцев назад +3

    This is an absolutely amazing and comprehensive video!! My 2015 wrx limited has 169k miles now and I'm really thinking about doing a full overhaul before something fails. This video was far better than any other Subaru engine video I've ever seen!!!

  • @njx1993
    @njx1993 Год назад +4

    This guys' videos are my therapy!! 😊

  • @RandyJM21
    @RandyJM21 Год назад +2

    Some many positive things to say about how this presenter disseminates info I like on many different levels . Despite not being deep into understanding of engines I fully comprehended 99% of what was explained which shocked me . Excellent delivery , i could write a book on why . Subbing despite no need for services or any of the info on a deeper level but highly enjoyable to be able to have that level of uptake of info that I wouldnt expect to grasp at that level and the manner in which its done is excellent and if i was in need of services this video and presenters manner etc would grab me to dive deeper 100% . Excellent .

  • @Ifixtheinternet
    @Ifixtheinternet 8 месяцев назад +3

    Can all the manufacturers please watch this video and note all of this guy's concerns?
    I want to see this guy designing his own engine.

  • @kamargee9680
    @kamargee9680 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love how this guy breaks stuff down. If you do too. Click that thumbs up. He deserves it

  • @djosbun
    @djosbun Год назад +1

    It’s easy to see that this gentleman grew up in a machine shop. A superbly detailed video! 👍🏼

  • @mysteriousguy019
    @mysteriousguy019 10 месяцев назад +1

    A man worth gaining knowledge on cars. Literally the guy I plan to go to for tuning in the future.

  • @dewjustin
    @dewjustin Год назад +15

    Love the videos. An FA20 vs FA24 video would be awesome. I know a lot of people that are curious about the details and breakdown of the two and if/where the FA24 improved over the FA20.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +11

      They are almost the same motor. Not worth doing a separate video. Our last one mostly showed an FA24.

    • @dewjustin
      @dewjustin Год назад

      @@motoiq thanks, any idea if the connecting rods are any stronger in the FA24? I heard you say it was the Achilles Heel of the FA20, wondering if it’s the same story for the new WRX.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +5

      I think it's a bit stronger but unfortunately the new WRX isnt selling well so there are not many of those cars out. Also the engine is stronger than an EJ and they are not blowing up much.

    • @invertedv12powerhouse77
      @invertedv12powerhouse77 Год назад +1

      The new wrx has straight rods if i recall. Would have to see.​@@dewjustin

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      They are straight.

  • @boosTiMon
    @boosTiMon Год назад +3

    Mike is like the Encyclopedia Britannica of car information. He’s like the Google database.

  • @jaynoii
    @jaynoii Год назад +4

    Great content as always! I feel like I want to just sit there with you with a notepad and absorb. Keep up the great content!

  • @Kelford-Cams
    @Kelford-Cams Год назад +1

    Fantastic video as always Mr Kojima! Thank you for your kind words on our engineering principals

  • @leviscott8519
    @leviscott8519 Год назад +1

    Great video Mike! Tons of very in-depth and very valuable build info. Love your passion and knowledge! Mind blown again!

  • @ianchong3996
    @ianchong3996 10 месяцев назад +1

    What an education I'm finally getting on my MY2014 FA20DIT. Thank you very very much!

  • @darkobelisk4076
    @darkobelisk4076 7 месяцев назад +1

    I want to see this guy build his ultimate engine and put it into production

  • @CrazyCat229
    @CrazyCat229 Год назад +3

    If half the aftermarket shops cared as much as he does... don't even get me started on Rotary Engine builders. It's not the engine that is unreliable, 99.5% of issues are bad tuners/builders...

  • @VictorMPR
    @VictorMPR Год назад +2

    Yyyaaaaayyy!!! A video on the FA!!

  • @mikehaney6512
    @mikehaney6512 14 дней назад +1

    What about 2002 subaru outback EJ 2.5 Boxer. 277.000 miles going good with maintenance changes regularly

  • @Growthat
    @Growthat 10 месяцев назад +3

    Protect Mike at all costs, this man is a fucking gem! His Delivery is top notch and he explains things so well without putting you to sleep.

  • @harrybuhse8622
    @harrybuhse8622 Год назад +1

    Christmas came real early this year. Thank you for the incredible information.

  • @coryr1948
    @coryr1948 10 месяцев назад +1

    This video helped me feel happy I didn't "upgrade" to an STI. Ive been think bout trading in for an STI but this made me decide not to. Im happy with my FA20 WRX. Bought it brand new and hope to keep it until gas is no longer a option in the future.

  • @dwilliamson7286
    @dwilliamson7286 Год назад +12

    This guy passed Material Science

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +12

      In fact I got an A in it!

  • @patteahan8704
    @patteahan8704 Год назад +4

    you guys spliced in the oil pickup/pan segment seamlessly... only caught it when the silver subie was turned around lol

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +7

      This was done over several weeks.

    • @snoofayy6150
      @snoofayy6150 Год назад

      Clearly you've never worked in a shop, the cars love playing peek-a-boo with us mechanics 😊

    • @patteahan8704
      @patteahan8704 Год назад

      @@motoiq lol I assumed, just saying it was unnoticeable save for the car being turned around. Thought it might have been a nod to see who's playing attention.

  • @botcrack
    @botcrack 10 месяцев назад +3

    Had no idea "super lubricious" was a word... I'm going to try to use that word in every interaction I have from now on, lol.

  • @OblivionX
    @OblivionX 7 месяцев назад

    love this guy, just looks so happy to be there

  • @zedaye9552
    @zedaye9552 Год назад +3

    This puts confidence back into building an FA. Thanks for the content once again.
    Keep getting told the FA heads don't flow as much as the EJ, and restrict it from making power due to the water jackets being so close and can't port too much.
    One of my dream builds has always been doing a twich charge, turbo and SC, and the FA has the bones for one of these builds.
    Hopefully i can find someone as knowledgeable as you guys to help me with my build.
    Thanks again for your work Mike 👍🏽

  • @MickyMouseLimited
    @MickyMouseLimited 7 месяцев назад +1

    This was a really cool video and definitely made a lot of sense thank you great work.

  • @zigazackwrx17
    @zigazackwrx17 Год назад +2

    Another great video Mike. I would love to see the motor put together. Assembly video???

  • @JoseMartinez-gy9eo
    @JoseMartinez-gy9eo Год назад +3

    Thanks for this video, I got a built shortblock from Maperformance for my WRX and it’s damn near the exact same specs. It’s very reassuring to hear just how great the motor is! Great video👍🏽

    • @ruturaj47
      @ruturaj47 Год назад

      FA24 WRX?

    • @JoseMartinez-gy9eo
      @JoseMartinez-gy9eo Год назад

      @@ruturaj47 no FA20DIT, he’s talking about the fa20 in this video

    • @ruturaj47
      @ruturaj47 Год назад +1

      @@JoseMartinez-gy9eo gotcha, my bad, I thought previous gen was EJ and current is FA, it was a wrong assumption.

    • @JoseMartinez-gy9eo
      @JoseMartinez-gy9eo Год назад +1

      @@ruturaj47 no worries! There’s a built shortblock for the FA24 out now as well though

    • @ruturaj47
      @ruturaj47 Год назад +1

      @@JoseMartinez-gy9eo thanks, that's good to hear, if engine on my car blows I would be looking for one 😂.

  • @jaredweimer4189
    @jaredweimer4189 4 месяца назад +1

    You deserve many more views

  • @kelly-drift
    @kelly-drift Год назад +1

    Great video Mike! Thanks for the education!

  • @boldtaco4505
    @boldtaco4505 Год назад +1

    Love the fa20 content

  • @j.m.5995
    @j.m.5995 Год назад

    "Super smooth, super lubricious, super low friction" Yup that describes me un a nutshell lol

  • @Dr_Defy
    @Dr_Defy 7 месяцев назад +1

    bro i love your subaru content. im building a crazy custom car. im thinking about using a new fa

  • @shiloh5199
    @shiloh5199 7 месяцев назад +2

    I would love to have you guys build me an FA20DIT for my 2017 VA chassis.

  • @TienSkatesThe305
    @TienSkatesThe305 Месяц назад

    So all this being said, is it still worth building the FA in a brz or LS swapping it?

  • @johnvoit9629
    @johnvoit9629 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great video!

  • @ibraiynlopez3510
    @ibraiynlopez3510 Год назад

    @15:40
    is that the reason they loose oil pressure when performing hard right turns??

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад

      Rings have nothing to do with oil pressure.

    • @ibraiynlopez3510
      @ibraiynlopez3510 Год назад

      Apologies i was referring to the oil pump cover passage way that feeds the main galley. Where you bore it out
      Idk why the time stamp takes it to the ring portion 🤷‍♂️

    • @ibraiynlopez3510
      @ibraiynlopez3510 Год назад

      Do you guys sell oil pump cover already bored out??

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад

      No but it's not hard to do it yourself.

  • @MonkellD
    @MonkellD Год назад

    We would love a feature follow up on this engine when it gets running!!!

  • @hectorurrea2993
    @hectorurrea2993 3 месяца назад

    Coolest info out there for the FA24❤

  • @1atinlove
    @1atinlove Год назад +2

    Thanks Mike! Great video, i have been waiting for years. I have read your articles to kind of guide me through my build. After built heads, and a IAG extreme. The next section is the transmission. Do you have any preferences for building the gearsets or a CD009 as a replacement? I know that there is full race but for us poor gear heads, something real.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      CD009 as the FA can make enough power to blow the stock trans apart and we could not make them live very long over 400's in the power.

  • @ellisjackson336
    @ellisjackson336 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this video!

  • @zokusharuuku1091
    @zokusharuuku1091 Год назад

    My ej was 2 quarts low when it spun a king rod bearing, I’ll be lucky to ever get the car running again as the previous build was so expensive it’s ridiculously expensive to fix unless I just swap a stock engine in

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад

      See our Subaru play list for ways to prevent oil spitting.

  • @lazylazy6969
    @lazylazy6969 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bro the part about the crank shaft was nuts lmao doesn't seem like a cheap build

  • @itsnickrubin
    @itsnickrubin Год назад +1

    Another great video! TY

  • @sadow51
    @sadow51 7 месяцев назад

    I got a 17 wrx. Fixing to mod it a little. Sounds like I won’t really need to do much to the engine for reliability

  • @jumboshirmp
    @jumboshirmp Год назад +1

    Is the oil pump cover on the FA24 also have a smaller hole versus the galley?

  • @Chilliann
    @Chilliann 4 месяца назад

    Hey man I’ve been having so much trouble with finding ANY cams, valve springs, Headstuds, OR ANY INTERNALS for my 2022 brz. FA24D. Please help

  • @santoscarrillo2996
    @santoscarrillo2996 Год назад +2

    Im learning

  • @josephschnabel1andonly
    @josephschnabel1andonly 26 дней назад

    Is one better for tuning ;gr86/brz?
    Mechanical differences and communications?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  26 дней назад +1

      Most or less the same car

  • @two40zsx
    @two40zsx Год назад +1

    Are Viton Valve seals that great? I went with oe valve seals for my engine. I was hearing a lot of the aftermarket valve seals failing

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +3

      A lot of aftermarket seals are made of crap. A lot of OEM seals are viton too.

  • @Krowskaptures
    @Krowskaptures Год назад +1

    Wish the parts was on the website. I've only found a couple. I'd buy the whole kit if it was on the website.

  • @trutaing
    @trutaing Год назад

    For the head work: how much more cfm are we talking about over stock? Did you guys measure stock flow and compare the work you recommended here?
    Love the emphasis on low lift flow and how much time is spent there. You've said this in your other videos and it makes so much sense!

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      We didn't flow bench it, people won't pay to have it done.

    • @trutaing
      @trutaing Год назад +1

      @@motoiq looking forward to seeing content of this engineer build running!
      Thanks for sharing all the knowledge!

  • @jittychitty
    @jittychitty Год назад +1

    Great demonstration. Joined.

  • @phillipandrews7610
    @phillipandrews7610 26 дней назад

    Sir does the fa24 engine have a flat crank or the cross plane crank? How would I go about changing to a flat plane crank?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  26 дней назад

      Flat plane like most 4 cylinder engines.

    • @phillipandrews7610
      @phillipandrews7610 25 дней назад

      Also how would I change my gears to accelerate quicker on my 2024 wrx tr? For a daily driver is there any added value to swap my diff for an lsd diff?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  25 дней назад

      I would leave your gears alone. If you feel you need an LSD it is a good mod if your driving has progressed to that point, if not I would leave it alone.

  • @stevebodalenko5286
    @stevebodalenko5286 Год назад

    The noise from the HP fuel pump on e85 is called 'chirping' cause it sound like a bird chirping. I've never heard of it causing an issue or pump failure before though. Is the same HP fuel pump changeover applicable to NA FA20 fitted to the BRZ/GT86? Nostrum's website only refers to the FA20 WRX.

  • @not_so_short
    @not_so_short 7 месяцев назад

    Who would you recommend I send my fa20dit to? I want it built but with the open deck setup

  • @RonaldoWright
    @RonaldoWright 2 месяца назад

    What if I put rods that are straight instead of slanted?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  2 месяца назад

      No clearance to the case.

  • @IHadToMakeThisAccount
    @IHadToMakeThisAccount Год назад +1

    Are the BRZ and WRX Engine the same head castings?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      They are very close

  • @bobosstroll9798
    @bobosstroll9798 2 месяца назад

    which FA engine is this though? there different ones with different compression ratios and and CCs

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  2 месяца назад

      The 20 and the 24

    • @bobosstroll9798
      @bobosstroll9798 2 месяца назад

      @@motoiq is the quality and strength of parts the of say the FA24F and FA24D the same even though one is but for turbo and the other just NA?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  2 месяца назад

      The Turbo 24 is stronger.

  • @LORDCOOLER714
    @LORDCOOLER714 Год назад +1

    This is the bob ross of Subarus lol

  • @Cheeseypoofs85
    @Cheeseypoofs85 6 месяцев назад +1

    carpenter steel.. o yea buddy.. i have an CTS-XHP black talon 2. sick knife.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  6 месяцев назад

      I don't like the blade shape, at least for a working knife. Still a badass knife.

  • @andrewable2634
    @andrewable2634 Год назад +2

    Are you guys aware of the fa24 oil pressure drop issues on track days? This is even happening on stock grip setups

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +6

      Yes, I think this baffle will help as some other things, oddly the 86 cup cars are ok, we had two of those motors so far and the oiling system is stock and the bearings are fine.

    • @ellisjackson336
      @ellisjackson336 Год назад +1

      @@motoiqthank you very much for making this video 😊

    • @CrazyCat229
      @CrazyCat229 Год назад +1

      The only cheap way to help that issue... oil accumulator... and do everything you can to keep the oil in the pan above the pick-up tube. Run almost a quart of oil over stock, and thicker oil...

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +4

      Probably the IAG baffle is going to make a huge difference.

    • @ChurchAutoTest
      @ChurchAutoTest Год назад +1

      @@motoiq This x100. None of the cup guys are having any issues. None. And I know a couple of those guys and I guarantee they are pulling more g's than anyone reporting the issue. Little bird told me maybe the problem is where the "low oil pressure" is being measured. Something about a blind passage at the top of the engine....

  • @soconoha
    @soconoha 6 месяцев назад +1

    EJ22 for life.

  • @noneofmybusiness9895
    @noneofmybusiness9895 Месяц назад

    What are your thoughts on turbocharging the new brz? With its already high compression, is there a need to upgrade internals for a modest hp gain? We're talking like 330-350 whp with a professional tune. Would this application be likely to go boom without internals being upgraded?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Месяц назад

      The transmission will pop on the track, will probably hold up for awhile on the street. Need to address the oiling issues if track driving. Verus is coming out with a baffled pan that will help a lot.

    • @noneofmybusiness9895
      @noneofmybusiness9895 Месяц назад

      @motoiq so the block, head, all the internals will handle the power - it's more so the transmission that you think is the weakest link?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Месяц назад

      The rods will break if the power is much more than 330. They make kits to adapt the Nissan CDOO9 transmission.

    • @noneofmybusiness9895
      @noneofmybusiness9895 Месяц назад

      @@motoiq I was watching your other video comparing the ej to the fa, and in the conclusion you spoke about the connecting rods bending in the fa, but you thought that 450 hp probably wouldn't give too many problems. I didn't mention before - I have a brz with the 2.4L, which I've read can handle more power than the 2 liter. Does the FA24 have better rods and a stronger crank?
      Thanks again for the info.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Месяц назад

      If you change pistons and rods. The 24 has stronger rods but not 450 hp stronger.

  • @Natedoc808
    @Natedoc808 Год назад

    Great video. Only thing that harmed my EJ207 was Subaru going with a plastic radiator drain plug that fails with heat cycling… rebuild due to overheating. At 174K it still had nitriding on the low side of the piston skirts!

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад

      You can't nitride aluminum.

    • @Natedoc808
      @Natedoc808 Год назад

      @@motoiq I'm no metallurgist so what is the black coating on the OEM pistons?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      Dry film lubricant

  • @WRXMAN-ms2mm
    @WRXMAN-ms2mm 6 месяцев назад +2

    After watching this video how can so many trash the DIT 2.0 FA. I get not liking the weak transmission of the WRX but the engine in this format is a little gem!

    • @yummyhershey5902
      @yummyhershey5902 5 месяцев назад

      The FA20 is so prone to knock that Subaru claims it’s normal in the owner’s manual!😂 The motor still seems to be generally weaker than some of its competitors, primarily Volkswagen’s EA888. Not only is that motor less likely to blow, but it also makes power a little more easily. I don’t know why, but a lot of these FA20 guys spin a rod bearing, seemingly from nowhere. Maybe it’s because of the knock combined with the non-priority oiling system Mike talked about in this video.
      That being said, it’s not necessarily a “bad” motor, and the FA24 seems incredibly stout from what I’ve seen so far.

    • @ndog1234765
      @ndog1234765 3 месяца назад

      I monitor knock evens with my COBB Accessport, and i almost never get any. Maybe on low octane fuel, but I only run 93 (highest octane I can get where I live in Alberta Canada.​@@yummyhershey5902

  • @lauriedooker1031
    @lauriedooker1031 Год назад +1

    another great video 👍🇦🇺

  • @aidanteichert1290
    @aidanteichert1290 Год назад

    These videos are why I didn’t go to college 😂

  • @joecrak249
    @joecrak249 10 месяцев назад +1

    how much would something like this cost including the treatments to these parts

    • @joecrak249
      @joecrak249 10 месяцев назад

      PS I LOVVVEEEEEE MOTOIQ AS WELL AS THE KNOWLEDGE MIKE SPITS OUT FOR US

    • @joecrak249
      @joecrak249 10 месяцев назад

      looked this up for my gr86

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  10 месяцев назад

      See our video on Subaru engine costs

  • @stephaneverret5038
    @stephaneverret5038 Месяц назад

    Hi have question for daily drive forged fa20 closedeck with big power (500 at 600 hp it is good or not. ???

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Месяц назад

      Probably not past 500

    • @stephaneverret5038
      @stephaneverret5038 Месяц назад

      @motoiq ok if i have everyting good radiator good fan oil cooler that dont change anyting. ?? Or is better to have open deck block

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Месяц назад +1

      for 500 closed deck for sure.

    • @stephaneverret5038
      @stephaneverret5038 Месяц назад +1

      @@motoiq thank you your answer gona help me for start my build projet i was just not sur about the right block for me with stage 2 turbo kit. Do you know Anyting about transmission i need to know for any major problem i can have with this build ??

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Месяц назад

      If WRX or fr-s yes you will have problems with the transmission at 500 hp.

  • @pinoycarnbikeguy8888
    @pinoycarnbikeguy8888 8 месяцев назад

    Amazing content! I wanted to ask if you used the +1 mm oversized GSC valves or the standard size ones? Thanks!! Trying to replicate the headwork on my own build!!!

  • @rbohenko1590
    @rbohenko1590 Год назад

    Is it recommended to replace the oil baffle along with the oil pick up tube or is it okay to just upgrade the pickup tube? And I'm assuming I should just go ahead and replace the oil pan gasket since it's already off, rite?

  • @eddytwitch3351
    @eddytwitch3351 11 месяцев назад

    What is your opinion on the best engine oil pressure on stock FA20 engines? for track days and road and touge use. Greetings from Italy

  • @INTEL-REDACTED
    @INTEL-REDACTED Год назад

    can you do a video on the honda J series, whats interchangeable what isn't, how to build it for boost, how much you can make reliably on the stock drive train etc.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      Probably not because I don't like that motor or swap.

  • @michaelsawyer9410
    @michaelsawyer9410 Год назад

    WPC question, when you change the metal to body centered cubic will it not change to other crystallin structure overtime from heat cycling the engine or are the temperature's changes not great enough in the combustion cycle to to effect this?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      WPC doesnt change the metal structure, cryo does.

    • @michaelsawyer9410
      @michaelsawyer9410 Год назад

      @motoiq got caught up, same question but cryo,I figure if it changes in one direction it can go the other direction but that's not always the case with crystalline structures is the there something after body centered cubic in this case even though it's a lower energy structure than face centered cubic would it get enough energy from the heat cycles over time to return to its weaker state and negate the positive effect of cryo? If so how many heat cycles does it last for before this is the case? If not does it change to a completly different crystalline structure or stay the same?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      Most engine parts don't get hot enough. The only things to get close are maybe the exhaust valves. The exhaust manifold can get to the tempering temperature and possibly the range of heat treating.

  • @GAMRMNTS2
    @GAMRMNTS2 2 месяца назад

    Looking in boosting my 2013 brz im only doing pistons rods and bearings would you recommend anything else? Car has over 140k miles aiming for 300wp

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  2 месяца назад

      That should see you to there.

    • @GAMRMNTS2
      @GAMRMNTS2 2 месяца назад

      @ thanks for the reply should I keep the stock compression ratio?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  2 месяца назад

      Yes if you are on pump gas, if FA consider lowering it to 10.5:1

    • @GAMRMNTS2
      @GAMRMNTS2 2 месяца назад

      @@motoiq thanks!

  • @ghostedyoutuber263
    @ghostedyoutuber263 5 месяцев назад

    Why not DLC the piston rings?

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  4 месяца назад

      Some rings like Mahle are

  • @slfrules1
    @slfrules1 Год назад

    i think that oil cover neck has to do with the oiling priority. They ain't going after RPMs so restricting the main oil galley cuts windage and can probably help cool the heads.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      No the oil passage routing has to do with oiling priority.

    • @slfrules1
      @slfrules1 Год назад

      Thanks! I thought that cover sent the oil off to each head and the mains kinda like a coolant manifold does. Figured it was like when turbo feed comes off the pressure sensor n gets a restrictor

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад +1

      No watch the video!

    • @slfrules1
      @slfrules1 Год назад

      I have, promise lol! Rewatched 22:00 to 23:30 and 28:10 to 29:10 a whole bunch to boot. I think i don't understand fluid dynamics. I did fail that mess before having to rethink things. Few Nissans and GMs i've been deep into always seems like the main feed will be the smallest and the squirter feed the largest with heads in the middle. Seemed bad for performance so i've always figured they had an emissions reason behind it

  • @SGQ12
    @SGQ12 11 месяцев назад

    May i know the part of that need for oil pan. The pick up tube and that flat plates? Thank you in advance sir. More watching here

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  11 месяцев назад

      We explain that in the video very carefully.

  • @andrevalenzuela846
    @andrevalenzuela846 5 месяцев назад

    Question, can you run an FA20dit piston (wrx) with a FA20 engine rebuild (brz). I know brz has both di and port, and I think wrx doesn't have port. Looking into choosing Manley pistons for my '13 brz engine build!

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  5 месяцев назад

      Yes that is fine.

  • @grippgoat
    @grippgoat Год назад +1

    I couldn't find any IAG parts for the 2023 BRZ. Did you accidentally leak the secret to 900BRZ's stable oil pressure? 🤨

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  Год назад

      The baffle is new so you might have to call on it.

  • @Patriot_wrx
    @Patriot_wrx 9 месяцев назад

    Would you guys be able to talk about what different turbo/induction noises are? What compressor surge sounds like vs the chirping of a BOV, diverter valve, lack thereof, etc. I got a diverter valve from Perrin and it’s making a lot of “turbo flutter” noise which I’m not sure if it’s due to it not properly blowing off air, or if it’s just the sound of the valve.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  9 месяцев назад

      A quick check would be to disconnect it, the noise should change. Aslo see if your boost is lower, this would indicate that it is set too loose and blowing open.

  • @SpecialK_Ody
    @SpecialK_Ody 6 месяцев назад

    Would you recommend doing the oil pick up and baffle when doing the IAG short block? I am on 110k miles on stock block and pushing 330 ish torque and plan on keeping it as a fun daily street car. My mechanic noticed I have an exhaust valve leak which is why I am moving forward with new block and will use the GCS valves.

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  6 месяцев назад

      Yes

  • @offensiveexplosion
    @offensiveexplosion Год назад +2

    "Super lubricious" needs to be on a shirt

  • @karlvanboxel561
    @karlvanboxel561 6 месяцев назад

    Do u do anything to the oiling system system to prioritise the crank oiling ? Over the head oiling ? Apart from that seems like with yur mods it’s gonna b a stout engine! When u first look at the crank it looks flimsy but the journal overlap is important I know motorcycles generally run smaller diameter journals and that is because they r concerned with journal/ bearing speed I don’t know much about that can u possibly enlighten me they don’t seem to be as concerned about that in most car engines because of the lower rpm but dare say that cos worth may have considered this in Gordon Murray’s remarkable 3.9 litre v12 running to 11-12000 rpm lol

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  6 месяцев назад +1

      Did you see the part about enlarging the passage in the front cover to the case?

  • @scottboyle7329
    @scottboyle7329 11 месяцев назад

    How come I can't find the IAG oil baffles anywhere for a fa20 Wrx. I have a 2020 and can't find them anywhere??

    • @motoiq
      @motoiq  11 месяцев назад

      They just came out, call them